Hi mappers

I wonder if someone could help me with a map I'm working on at the moment.

It is my latest movie based map - based on the movie 'Way of the Gun' (2001)

It features the Mexican brothel where the massive shootout takes place at the end of the film. I have painstakingly recreated every detail possible, and I was very pleased with the nearly finished article, until I jumped in to test - performance in the red, all the time

I have used occ. blocks anywhere I can where it doesn't interfere with visuals etc. and I have a good grasp of what occlusion blocks do and have used them with pleasing results on lots of my earlier maps, but this map is proving very tricky.

I'm on the verge of giving up with it, which would be heartbreaking for me as I have invested many weeks on it already, but I just cannot seem to get the performance down into the yellow, let alone green - it's firmly in the red.

The nature of the structures is such that using occlusion in the walls is impossible as it is constructed of single thickness colonial fencing and cannot be double thickness due to other issues like passage ways and resource count etc.

I am reluctant to tear it apart and build with double thickness walls as this would lead to resource issues instead.

I'm well and truly stuck. If there is anyone who would like to take a look at it, please let me know here, and I will publish it briefly so you can grab it.
If it really can't be done then I will have to accept that it is just too ambitious (not for me, for the lousy game limits lol) and call it quits.

Here are some screenshots from the movie to show what I'm aiming for:














Thanks in advance fellow mappers

Thanks DEEZ, most appreciated. 

Because I am on and off PSN at varying hours these days, I will publish it now, that way anyone can grab it - it will of course be hugely dissappointing to those that download it hoping it's playable, as the spawns are way up in the air lol, and the fall is most definitely fatal 

It is now published under the name Way of the Gun test

Thanks Rob, any help is appreciated.

I did try that, and while it does remove shadow effects, it also produced some strange visuals while inside the building - eg. there is bright sunshine even when your under a roof structure - it seems to have the effect of making the roof transparent to only sunshine - wierd 

Thanks FC302, I appreciate your input

Not sure if you've had a look at the map, but the main problem is the thin walls (colonial fences) and floors (fishing quay walkways) of the building itself - whenever you turn to face the building from outside, the performance indicator jumps to the red. There is a lot of detail and items packed into a fairly small building. It's even worse when you enter the building. It isn't really avoidable either, unless I drastically compromise on the detail and design - which I am reluctant to do as it's quite a nice design and visually works very well.

I've stared at it for hours and apart from starting again and making it very much bigger  (ruining the scale) with thicker walls and floors etc (to include occ. blocks), I can't see a way through - I hate being beaten by the editor - if only they made the occ. blocks really thin, but oh well, it looks like I'm going to have to admit defeat. Ouch, that hurts lol  

I'll leave it on ubi server in case anyone has a brainwave - but I'll probably delete it sooner rather than later 

Right, im going to occlusion block your ceiling now. Your stairs lag A LOT, they willl need replacing otherwise the map wont be playable & I think you will need to delete the explosives because they will create a lot of lag when they explode. Dont do that yet though cos i'm not done yet.

I occluded a bit of the 2nd floor roof with no problems, did you try tilting it? Does anyone know if grass adds to lag much?

Trees add some lag, but only if they're placed in large quantities.

I've looked at the map and I know I ain't good enough with occlusion blocks to fix that map. lol You've done an incredible job detailing it. Unfortunately, the lack of auto occlusion on objects means we have to place it ourselves. And the blocks they gave us are far to big.

Even using the overhead block trick to remove all shadows only results in it propping to dark orange. (Which wouldn't even be playable on a full game.)

For something of that detail, I don't even know if a total rebuild would work. (at least, I'm to lazy to try. lol)

Unless some of the better mappers have any ideas, then I think you may have made a map that's too good.

Or unless PBS manages to save it. He's your only hope in my opinion. LOL

Still, that's a dang fine looking map.

Thanks