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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2010, 10:03:08 PM »

Actually the AR-16 out ranges the PKM by 5m, yet the SAW out ranges the AR-16 by another 5m.  I know, I tested.


See this.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 10:36:45 PM »

I stand corrected, how could I possibly argue the contrary against such valuable and important research  Tongue

Yup, I saw this in your thread a while back, it's certainly what we all need to know, some surprises in there though, and of course it matters a great deal whose finger is on the trigger  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 06:23:00 AM »

You forgot to add something:
 
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100m

Oh wait, I think I'm wrong here.  Tongue

Back to the topic: The PKM is defo not the easiest weapon to use. It is easy, but it is not easier than the AR-16. The PKM can handle quite a range, yes, but in that case aiming is harder than it would be w/ AR.
What I want to say is: The PKM still requires some skill. The AR does not.

Btw, the Star 45 is not that bad, is it? From what I've done with it, I'd say it has at least twice as much range as the Homeland. Technically, it is the best pistol, as it has a decent range, decent damage and exceedingly good accuracy, even if you don't even use the iron sight. The fire rate is a bit down in the dumps though.

LOL we should do an accuracy research I think. At least for some weapons. One player stands somewhere and the other player aims at his head, see if he hits it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 03:57:41 PM »

I still think the PKM is easier 'cause you don't even have to use the iron sights or worry about losing accuracy from continued fire. I just walk through a room hip-firing all over the place and don't worry about it.  It's better than the Ar-16 for close range because of full-auto, you can go for a spray and pray tactic if you wish.

And yes the Star .45 is that range, the homeland has really good range so having a bit more than it seems less than it is.
The Star .45 is the best pistol in my opinion. If the Deagle was a one shot to the chest like it should be, I'd use it in stead. But since it's only a bit better than the Star .45 in damage, fires the same speed, and has horrible accuracy and recoil, I stick with the Star .45.

Side note: today I went to the shooting range with my relatives, two of the guns I fired were .40s but one was a .45 that was almost exactly the same as the one in FC2. I liked that one the best of all of them, I just wish I was a better shot. lol The Star .45 in FC2 sounds NOTHING like the real thing. The FC2 version sounds like a shoe scuffing dirt compared to any real gun.

There was a guy there firing a .44 Magnum. You could tell when he fired even among all the other people there, it'd be like "Pop pop pop BOOM! pop pop pop pop BOOM!
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 04:51:38 PM »

I say it's not easier. Well, maybe on maps on which it really comes to combat at closest ranges, where people are sort of locked in a thin corridor. But think of what you can do with the AR-16 on most maps, then compare that to what you can do with the PKM, you'll find the AR-16 way easier. On midrange+, the AR-16 is WAY easier to use. It's a NOOB gun.

For the "spray 'n' pray" (or is it "pay"?  Tongue) tactics, you might as well wanna use the SAW...

The Homeland does have a nice range, but I don't think it's anything like the Star. You can easily dish out headshots at distances like 60 meters with the Star, but try killing an enemy with 1 shot from a Homeland, at the same distance, the opponent will turn around and kill you, even if one or two bullets hit him.

[offtopic]Btw: Comparing JC2 and FC2 in terms of gunplay, you will notice differences like miles between. There are two shotguns @ JC2. A sawn off and a semi-automatic M1014. Both have almost the same range, the M1014 of course a bit more. But the funny thing is: Both have WAY more range than the Homeland from FC2; you can basically kill an enemy from 150 meters distance with three shots).

The M1014 is one heavy beast I tell you. Well, in JC2 it really is. If FC2 had something like this. Got a bunch of soldiers and a colonel infront of ya? Upgrade that thing to Lvl 6, then just dish out one shot per enemy. One shot to the colonel's face and he's dead. This gun is WAY stronger than the .44 magnum in JC2.

Also, there's a kind of MP5/Tec9 mix SMG. That little thing has a range of hundreds of meters. I think 250 or something like that. Equal to the Bull's Eye Assault rifle, except it has no scope.
The sniper rifle has slightly more.

Now the rocket launchers from JC2... they have an unlimited range! As long as the player is within a certain range of the rocket, the rocket will fly ahead and not explode. So you can actually take the parachute thrusters and try to keep up with the rocket. As long as you do, the rocket will fly.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2010, 04:45:07 AM »

you all make massive kills and complain about a gun being used thats just sad...and after the AR is the next best gun should we ban that after the AR until its a bear nuckle fight...
i always start whit the RPG and UZI is that OK? it depends on the map realy, if i have to cover a lot of distance i prefer the AR over a sniper gun...and if i can piss you all of in the process thats just a bonus!
2bad we cant customize classes and swap the green dot on the FAL or AK...

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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 05:15:41 AM »

i always start whit the RPG and UZI is that OK?
Obviously.
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you all make massive kills and complain about a gun being used thats just sad...
The fact that I can still get the highest score most of the time doesn't make it any less annoying when I die after 3 shots, sometimes I just see the screen go red.
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and after the AR is the next best gun should we ban that after the AR until its a bear nuckle fight...
I only ban people for using ar16. I would tell them to stop using it but being ignored & having someone pretend to not know what I'm talking about("stop using what") & continue using the weapon after I explained put me off wasting my time.
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it depends on the map realy, if i have to cover a lot of distance i prefer the AR over a sniper gun
The ar16 shouldn't be so much better than a sniper rifle at long distances, the only time that isn't the case is when playing a huge, mostly empty map.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 05:22:21 AM »

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Chill, I think I told you before, and I mentioned in this thread, that I don't blame anyone for using it, OK?
And neither do the others who dislike the gun.

I just hate it and that's it, what's the problem? Some others do too, but my god... that's our opinions.

Yes, I admit it does piss me off sometimes, but again, do I ever make a fuss about it? I don't think so.

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The fact that I can still get the highest score most of the time doesn't make it any less annoying when I die after 3 shots, sometimes I just see the screen go red.
+1 for that.

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The ar16 shouldn't be so much better than a sniper rifle at long distances, the only time that isn't the case is when playing a huge, mostly empty map.
Again, +1.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 07:57:04 AM »

That damn sniper no-scoping gets me all of the time.  Undead is pretty good at all that bouncing around and sniping your dome piece in the process.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2010, 07:58:55 AM »

you call me a noob for using it dude and trust me i am chill...

a good map supports all classes and i never complain about any weapons and never will even the flamestick..if you ban people for using a weapon then your just a bad looser...
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2010, 08:05:08 AM »

LOL what?
Where/when did I call you a noob?  Undecided

And I didn't say I'd ban anyone for using it, and once again Yoz, I told you I am not blaming anyone who is using it except those who go mental incase they get owned.
So don't pick on me please.

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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2010, 08:13:43 AM »

you call it a NOOB gun and pbs banns for using it...im not picking on you, you are my favorite German....cant i give my opion on the subject...
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2010, 08:24:32 AM »

Well, it is the noobs' #1 favorite gun. There are much noobs out there, and if they use something then it's the AR.
If they get slashed consistently, they'd call anyone a cheater who uses a weaker gun.

I didn't address you in any way though.

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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2010, 08:37:27 AM »

i agree that most noobs use i but got no skills what so ever and you can easely out class them...just think how the game would be whitout it...
then you make 30 kills and 0 deaths...i get pissed when you kill 10x in a row......then again thats the hole point of playing a shooter... Grin
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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2010, 11:11:08 AM »

if you ban people for using a weapon then your just a bad looser...
If I was a bad loser I would call Undead_Avenger a cheat and ban Him... and again
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